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naval mines

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 12:46 am
by laugi2
I bougth naval mines and when came the time for them to be delivered i did got the messages of reenforcement for the mines but i never find them to be as reenforcement. Where are tehy(the mines)?

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:52 am
by WhoCares
I seem to have the same problem - I am already supposed to get my second batch, but I don't know where they are or how to place them :(

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:15 pm
by PhilThib
I'll check this with Calvinus, but I believe they are currently automatically deployed off your shores, in still 'un-mined' coastal sea zones :confused:

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:55 pm
by WhoCares
None along the whole coast, neither in the colonies...

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:44 am
by Offworlder
Any word on mines? BTW what are the real effects of mines? I've avoided them like the plague till now ;)

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:53 am
by calvinus
When attempting a naval raid against enemy coastline cities, you can be "intercepted" by naval minefields in a range of 2 areas. In such a case you suffer something like a torpedo attack... at least the effects are similar!

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:30 am
by Offworlder
tnx again!

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:54 am
by WhoCares
Regarding the buying and placement of mines, v1.0.4c brought the improvement that I see the mines now in the list of reinforcements. However, when I try to place them they don't show up on the map :(

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:10 pm
by calvinus
WhoCares wrote:Regarding the buying and placement of mines, v1.0.4c brought the improvement that I see the mines now in the list of reinforcements. However, when I try to place them they don't show up on the map :(


Yes, mines are to be deployed with drag & drop.

Do you mean the drop was successful (the mines aren't anymore on the reinforcements box) but the mines are not displayed on the map? I did several tests in the coastal sea zones of Baltic Sea... no problem. :blink:

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:21 pm
by WhoCares
Yepp, that's what I meant. Tried to drop them in the costal waters east and west of Schleswig-Holstein, they disapeared from the replacement list but did not show up in the water. Probably submerged stealth mines ;)

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:39 pm
by calvinus
WhoCares wrote:Yepp, that's what I meant. Tried to drop them in the costal waters east and west of Schleswig-Holstein, they disapeared from the replacement list but did not show up in the water. Probably submerged stealth mines ;)


Have you dropped them over an coastal sea zone that was already containing a naval minefield? If so, only one mine is showed (the former one). Otherwise, you probably dropped the minefield over the same area where I did tests! So it's very strange I saw the minefield and you not :bonk: .

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:02 pm
by WhoCares
calvinus wrote:Have you dropped them over an coastal sea zone that was already containing a naval minefield? If so, only one mine is showed (the former one). Otherwise, you probably dropped the minefield over the same area where I did tests! So it's very strange I saw the minefield and you not :bonk: .

Are there any minefields present in the 2 player GC at start? In that case the FOW might fool me not showing my own minefields :wacko: .
Otherwise I don't know...

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:09 pm
by calvinus
In fact the new minefields are to be placed in friendly coastal sea zone that currently do not contain other minefield.

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:18 pm
by WhoCares
Coastal zones they were.
Friendly I don't know, but as the british are not at war the german waters are not really contested.
Other minefields, there are none along all my coasts as i can't place them, except if they have been there from the beginning but I do not see them :cool:

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:32 pm
by wosung
calvinus wrote:In fact the new minefields are to be placed in friendly coastal sea zone that currently do not contain other minefield.


Huh?!

I remember as GB having upgraded a friendly Mark 1 minefield into a Mark 2 minefield: By placing another Mark 1 mine into it...

Regards

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2008 6:40 pm
by WhoCares
Hoho,
just checked and it is indeed the FOW setting for the human player that prevented me to see the mines that were already present in the regions I made my test :D

Disabling the FOW for mines I now see those german minefields and can also place my mines in the empty regions. While testing that I noticed that I can also mine the North Sea and the Baltic Sea, not just coastal regions.

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:33 am
by WhoCares
Haven't seen this one in the 'Fixed' list, so I just bump it - certainly not the most critical one and there is a workaround anyway.

PS: Some kind Moderator might drag this one over to the Troubleshouting section, as it is a bug ;)