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Diplomacy and the Manual

Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:49 am

Here is what the extended version of the manual says about Brazil

Brazil
● No diplomacy. May enter the game as an Entente member via event only
● Provides only economic effects (gain of EP by Entente powers)


Brazil declared war on me a couple turns ago (I'm playing CP). I'm guessing that the Entente must have played the event, and now will get an economic boost but not any troops?

For Afghanistan it says

15–19 Afghanistan is in revolt. Afghanistan is “pro-Central Powers”.
20–21 Serious uprising in Afghanistan, spreading to Indian Northwest
Frontier. Great Britain must leave 1 corps in British India or lose NW -1 per
turn as long as this level is maintained.
22+ Anglo-Afghan War: Great Britain must leave 2 corps in British India.
Failing that, Great Britain loses NW -1 per turn.
The war ends with a compromise (test randomly each turn), on 10+, each
corps sent in excess of the 2 in British India grants a +1 bonus to this check
(maximum +3). No diplomacy is possible for as long as the war lasts.
At the end of the war, a random number of losses (1 to 3) are suffered by
Britain and 2 British corps are reduced. Afghanistan moves back to Level
16.


So I managed to get Afghanistan to declare war on GB. And then the very next turn, Afghanistan capitulates!? So the war was over in one-month!? I'm hoping that GB lost a few corps like it says in the manual, but given I didn't predict it would work quite that way I'm just wondering if the way diplomacy in the game actually works is accurately represented in the manual?

Right now, when I click on Afghanistan and look at the diplomacy tab on the top of the screen it says: (23) Limited Intervention?

Here is what it says about Mexico

If Mexico reaches level 20–21, Pancho Villa conducts raids into Texas. The
United States must keep 1 corps in its country.
If Mexico reaches level 22–23, War is lurking beneath the surface between
Mexico and the United States. The United States must keep 1 HQ + 2 corps
in its country.

War with Mexico: Mexico declares war at level 24+:
Economic Aide is half, and American RP flow is half too.
● an Expeditionary corps composed of 1 HQ and 3 corps is sent to
Mexico.
● half of the US Navy is not available (per naval counter type);
everything is rounded up.
The conflict cannot end except with an American victory. A test (D12) is
carried out at the end of each turn. Victory is obtained on a 12+, each
additional corps sent gives +1 (maximum +3), and Pershing also gives +1
(if he commands the expedition’s HQ).
At the end of the war, a D12 is rolled: the result is the American losses, to
be shared out freely on the units (max. 2 losses per corps).
Mexico, once defeated, ceases all diplomacy for good (remove its marker).


So right now I've got Mexico at level 24, and it is Nov-Dec 1915. So I'm thinking that getting Mexico up a lot higher would be good for me, as Central Powers, eh? But maybe not right away?

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Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:12 am

Anthropoid wrote:Brazil declared war on me a couple turns ago (I'm playing CP). I'm guessing that the Entente must have played the event, and now will get an economic boost but not any troops?


Surely so. Brazil is not persisted in the game like a "nation" (look for example in the Nations.xls DB), so the only explanation is the event.

Anthropoid wrote:So I managed to get Afghanistan to declare war on GB. And then the very next turn, Afghanistan capitulates!? So the war was over in one-month!? I'm hoping that GB lost a few corps like it says in the manual, but given I didn't predict it would work quite that way I'm just wondering if the way diplomacy in the game actually works is accurately represented in the manual?

Right now, when I click on Afghanistan and look at the diplomacy tab on the top of the screen it says: (23) Limited Intervention?


I already have a scheduled bug report for Afghanistan that capituales too easily. ;)

Anthropoid wrote:So right now I've got Mexico at level 24, and it is Nov-Dec 1915. So I'm thinking that getting Mexico up a lot higher would be good for me, as Central Powers, eh? But maybe not right away?


Mexico enters in "Limited Intervention" (I recall war on USA) at level 24, and there's nothing for higher levels. So it could be a waste of AMBs. ;)

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Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:56 am

Thanks for the quick responses Calvinus!

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Another question about Diplomacy

Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:27 am

How do I send my Ambassadors back to their home countries? (I'm thinking of "0" AMB in particular, since I can merge others on site.)

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Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:02 am

Aphrodite Mae wrote:How do I send my Ambassadors back to their home countries? (I'm thinking of "0" AMB in particular, since I can merge others on site.)


I've noticed that they don't get back immediately after you click on them. Not sure if they ever get back or not.

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Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:08 am

The don't get back immediately: it's a move order that has to be delivered to the embassy abroad and to be executed at the end of the dip. phase.

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I'm still confused

Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:36 pm

calvinus wrote:The don't get back immediately: it's a move order that has to be delivered to the embassy abroad and to be executed at the end of the dip. phase.


I'm sorry, but I still don't understand. What do I click on, to cause the AMB who is in a neutral country to return to his capital?

For example, if I am playing the Central Powers, and I have a German AMB-1 in Greece, how do I send the AMB from Greece to Berlin? There is no German flag to click on, in the Diplomatic Mission box.

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Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:01 am

Aphrodite Mae wrote:I'm sorry, but I still don't understand. What do I click on, to cause the AMB who is in a neutral country to return to his capital?

For example, if I am playing the Central Powers, and I have a German AMB-1 in Greece, how do I send the AMB from Greece to Berlin? There is no German flag to click on, in the Diplomatic Mission box.


Ops... I did a mistake, sorry. There's no need to send the AMB back to his capital. You can move it towards another nation, not to his capital.

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