Bonjour,
Je ne comprends vraiment pas comment sont calculés les points de commandement (PC) des généraux.
Le manuel v6.10 dit que "Lorsque plusieurs généraux sont présents dans une même force, leurs points de commandement sont cumulés".
Mais ça ne marche pas. Par exemple, prenez le corps de Davout au début du scénario 1805. Il a 25 PC. Ca n'est pas égale la somme que suggèrente les règles : 9 (Davout général 3 étoiles) + 4 * 6 (4 généraux 2 étoiles) = 33 PC. D'autre part, certains bonus devraient augmenter ce total.
Alors, pourquoi 25 PC seulement ?
Si on détache le corps de Davout de la Grande Armée, ses PC tombent à 9. Il semble donc que seuls les PC de Davout (9 car 3 étoiles) sont pris en compte, pas ceux de ses généraux présents.
Merci pour vos explications.
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Arnaud_Bouis
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Il manque un bout de phrase... le cumul s'arrête à une certaine valeur de base, qui peut ensuite être dépassée mais uniquement via bonus (du chef d'armée ou aptitudes diverses).
Si tu regardes command&leaders.opt tu verras ceci:
ldrCommandMaximaRank1 = 3 // Nb of CP provided by a rank 1 leader
ldrCommandMaximaRank2 = 6 // Nb of CP provided by a rank 2 leader
ldrCommandMaximaRank3 = 9 // Nb of CP provided by a rank 3 leader
ldrCommandCap = 12 // base CP cap to a stack
Si tu regardes command&leaders.opt tu verras ceci:
ldrCommandMaximaRank1 = 3 // Nb of CP provided by a rank 1 leader
ldrCommandMaximaRank2 = 6 // Nb of CP provided by a rank 2 leader
ldrCommandMaximaRank3 = 9 // Nb of CP provided by a rank 3 leader
ldrCommandCap = 12 // base CP cap to a stack
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Arnaud_Bouis
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, on ne peut faire des cases d'espèces.
Sorry for posting in english
Leaders command points in Davout corps
9+(4x6)=33
But there is a maximum of 12, where bonus are applied
Bonus. Leaders abilities:
+ 3 (Davout good commander 1x3 level)
+ 1 (Berthier staffer)
+ 4 (Napoleon great strategist +1+(1x3 level)), according to the manual
In the tooltip Napoleon great strategist is explained as
If the Commander in Chief in the Department, provides +3 Command Point and an additional +1
per ability level, to his Force and all subordinates Corps. in this case it should be +6. One is wrong, the tooltip or the manual
+ 2 (Gudin gifted commander) I guess is not applied as he is not the commander of the corps
Bonus. Strategic rating of the army commander
+ 4 (Napoleon's strategic rating 6-2)
So 12+3+1+4(or+6)+4=24 (or 26) But in the game is 25, so I did something wrong
Corps detached 9
My only guess is that the maximum 12 is now 6 and +3 (Davout good commander 1x3 level). The rest of the bonus cannot be applied
If this is true the explanation of the manual is a bit confusing
Out of Command Penalty
If a Force is neither a Corps (within the Attachment Radius of its parent Army) nor an Army, it is considered to be
an Independent Force. (Units left behind to garrison cities and depots usually fall into this category.) An
Independent Force by definition is one that exists outside the normal Army/Corp command hierarchy. Being ‘Out of
Command’ causes the total number of Command Points generated by the Leaders in the Force to be halved.
For example, a 2-star Leader in a Corps that is within the Attachment Radius of its parent Army provides six (6)
Command Points. This same Leader, if present in an Independent Force, would provide only three (3) Command
Points.
With this explanation the CP should be 9+(4x6)/2=16,5
Leaders command points in Davout corps
9+(4x6)=33
But there is a maximum of 12, where bonus are applied
Bonus. Leaders abilities:
+ 3 (Davout good commander 1x3 level)
+ 1 (Berthier staffer)
+ 4 (Napoleon great strategist +1+(1x3 level)), according to the manual
In the tooltip Napoleon great strategist is explained as
If the Commander in Chief in the Department, provides +3 Command Point and an additional +1
per ability level, to his Force and all subordinates Corps. in this case it should be +6. One is wrong, the tooltip or the manual
+ 2 (Gudin gifted commander) I guess is not applied as he is not the commander of the corps
Bonus. Strategic rating of the army commander
+ 4 (Napoleon's strategic rating 6-2)
So 12+3+1+4(or+6)+4=24 (or 26) But in the game is 25, so I did something wrong
Corps detached 9
My only guess is that the maximum 12 is now 6 and +3 (Davout good commander 1x3 level). The rest of the bonus cannot be applied
If this is true the explanation of the manual is a bit confusing
Out of Command Penalty
If a Force is neither a Corps (within the Attachment Radius of its parent Army) nor an Army, it is considered to be
an Independent Force. (Units left behind to garrison cities and depots usually fall into this category.) An
Independent Force by definition is one that exists outside the normal Army/Corp command hierarchy. Being ‘Out of
Command’ causes the total number of Command Points generated by the Leaders in the Force to be halved.
For example, a 2-star Leader in a Corps that is within the Attachment Radius of its parent Army provides six (6)
Command Points. This same Leader, if present in an Independent Force, would provide only three (3) Command
Points.
With this explanation the CP should be 9+(4x6)/2=16,5
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