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alexander seil wrote:Just wondering, is there any sort of a summary as to what the mods do? I know they alter the AI to play more "historically," but is there anything else?


IIRC, AI files in the mod are more scripted toward historic objectives.

In practice, this means that Barbarians will be more determined to get areas they got historically, but will be somewhat reluctant to expand elsewhere.
But it was a few patches ago that I played a long game.

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Thu May 15, 2008 2:06 pm

i have a nobilis edition CD ( italian language ) and i have problems of cd key after patch !!!!!!! :p leure:

how i do? help me! :bonk:

( i have buyed CD, not downloading )

i havent another cd key on manual and on box cd...

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Thu May 15, 2008 2:12 pm

In fact we posted a clear advertising message clearly saying that the patch is only for the AgeOD version... :innocent:

What you can do is to send a private message to Philippe Thibaut asking for a serial key activation number... :siffle:

Here is the original post:

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Important: This patch works for the AGEOD version of the game.
So, once installed, you will have to:
- launch the Setup tool;
- type again the serial key number.

...

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The CD version is not compatible with the download version. Please contact us by PM.
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Mon May 19, 2008 9:19 am

Hi Calvinus

after playing the whole weekend i fear that the new "minor Ethnics assimilation tests" doesn´t work. :p leure: I still losing minor Ethnics every month. For example in Constantinople there are in January 350 20000 Greek, 12000 Hellenistic and 5000 Semitic people. In December 350 there are 12000 Hellenistic (this doesn´t chance because of dominant group) but only 6275 Greek and 1266 Semitic are left. This mean that after a few years there are only one ethnic group left per province/city.

Frank

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Mon May 19, 2008 9:56 am

If you used an old savegame, the former assimilation test took place as usual after one month. All following ones should be triggered evey x years instead, depending on what you have in your GameRules DB.

Just to be sure, I'll do some tests on my side, of course.

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Mon May 19, 2008 10:09 am

No, it was a new game.

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Mon May 19, 2008 10:34 am

So I have to investigate... ok, thanks.

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Mon May 19, 2008 4:57 pm

But is it the same bug? I don't believe so.

Under the old rules, before 1.07c, the majority city/province ethnic would always assimilate everyone else. Note that the majority population in Constantinople is Greek, and the state ethnic of the ERE is ALSO Greek! So it should be the Greeks "eating" other ethnics.

But there's another thing - in your example, there is no assimilation, since the Hellenistic population stays at the same number. Other ethnics are just disappearing into thin air, rather than being assimilated.

I think that the problem is the current general tendency of urban populations to "disappear." People flee, get killed, etc. and they never return. It's pretty bad, because then the cities stay empty forever, but they don't actually disappear from the map, leading to a lot of "ghost cities" in any areas that were affected by major wars.

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Mon May 19, 2008 5:46 pm

I am not 100 % sure but isn´t the state ethnic of ERE Hellenistic? I have installed the old version again and notice no difference to 1.07c. In both versions every month there are less people.

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Mon May 19, 2008 6:58 pm

Actually, you are right, I checked it and the ethnic assimilation check is still performed every month, unfortunately, although your case was pretty strange (since the Hellenistic group wasn't growing).

By the way, the state ethnic of ERE is definitely Greek.

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Mon May 19, 2008 7:54 pm

I tested locally in debug mode, just to be sure, and the assimilation tests are performed every 120 months. :bonk:

Please check inside your GameRules DB if there is a PAF line (it should be row #71 or #72), whose value should be 120 (months).

If no PAF line is present, it means there's something wrong in the patch.

I also double-checked the patch itself and it contains the updated vesion of the GameRules.csv DB... :bonk:

I think what you are experiencing is not an assimilation test.

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Mon May 19, 2008 8:25 pm

The PAF line is present and the value is 120

By the way, I observed these processes over a few years in the 634 scenario...Basically, Constantinople is the worst-affected, but it happens everywhere - in Egypt, Italy, etc. So it's definitely not triggered by events/wars/pillaging/conversions or anything of that sort. Also, in my case the dominant ethnic *does* increase in size while others decrease, so it must be some kind of "assimilation."

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Mon May 19, 2008 9:27 pm

I have too the PAF line. I changed the value a few time to see if there is a difference but it has no effect. I start every scenario to test it and it is everytime the same. You will losing a great amount of population in most provinces every month no matter of the scenario. :p leure:

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Tue May 20, 2008 7:10 am

To my knowledge, I remember that the assimilation process would "move" entire blocks of population from one ethnic to the dominant one. So that means you are not experiencing this effect. Instead you are suffering from a progressive decrease of population... It's a slightly different problem, annoying anyway I realise! :p leure:

I'll try to find some time for this issue, but you know I'm now totally committed on the military AI of the new project...

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Tue May 20, 2008 8:34 am

calvinus wrote:I'll try to find some time for this issue, but you know I'm now totally committed on the military AI of the new project...


So your secret project is not an adventure or sport game. :niark:

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I like playing adventure games, but only playing...
I don't like sport games, and I'm not a sports fan... :niark:

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calvinus wrote:To my knowledge, I remember that the assimilation process would "move" entire blocks of population from one ethnic to the dominant one. So that means you are not experiencing this effect. Instead you are suffering from a progressive decrease of population... It's a slightly different problem, annoying anyway I realise! :p leure:

I'll try to find some time for this issue, but you know I'm now totally committed on the military AI of the new project...



But why does the population of the dominant group increase in my case? I'll check it again, though.

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I bet on Pax Romana 2 or a post-GI game :siffle:

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Tue May 27, 2008 8:58 am

Maybe it is a project that was already announced at the old Antik Games website a few years back? There where a number of goodies there. The games on the middle ages or the wars of Louis XIV looked good. :niark:

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You will not have to wait too much time for an official announcement..... :niark: :king:

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Wed May 28, 2008 1:28 am

I can't wait until that comes out...so we can have more GI pathes :D

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Fri May 30, 2008 5:15 pm

calvinus wrote:This is the official link for the GI Mods 1.07c. :niark:


May I sugest that the link to this mod be corrected in Ageod's front page ?. The link in there leads only to a page where the last version is for 1.06a. :bonk:

Oh, and while you are at it, also update the link for the 1.07c patch, as the one on Ageod's page leads to a page where the last one is 1.07b... :siffle:

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Bonjour

Comment puis-je prouver l'achat de ma boite pour pouvoir avoir le dernier patch 1.07 ?

Merci de votre aide

Christophe

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Fri Jul 11, 2008 9:44 am

any news about the fix of this assimilation bug? I want to start a new game :p leure:

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I'm committed 100% on the new secret project... :cuit:
You will get news at the end of summer.

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Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:38 pm

Secret...hmm...I love secrets.. :tournepas .... :siffle: ..I have had this game for some time and I had bought a copy for a friend of mine. Anyway I look forward to the future. Meanwhile I am again reading John Norwich's first volume on the Byzantine Empire which begins with the late Roman Empire (including one of my favorite historical subjexcts -- Emperor Julian...). :niark:

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Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:36 pm

If you're already at 1.07, do you really have to do a fresh install for 1.07c, i.e., uninstall GI, reinstall GI, and then patch-up to 1.07c?

The GI version I purchased is 1.06.

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As far as you are concerned, you have a full 1.07c version to install... :cwboy:
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maintenant que WWI est sorti, quid du fix pour le génant bug d'assimilation?

calvinus, any news about a potential fix for the assimilation bug ? :thumbsup:

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