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Recurrent CTD...

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:54 pm
by Palpat
I am trying to play the 450 scenario, red player. I set all country as AI, except the Franks.
But problem, 2-3 days after the begining of the show, Franks units do disappear -other countries ones are still on map- and if I try to click on one of the province I own, CTD.
Whatever I do, I get a CTD within a couple of minutes.

Any idea of what is causing this?
I would like to play this scenario...

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:14 am
by Generalisimo
I do not have the game, so I can't say much to you... I will only ask for you to have a bit of patience... AGEOD is currently on vacations.
They will get to you as soon as they are back.
Thanks!

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:06 am
by PhilThib
Never seen that before... CAlvinus, the programmer, is away in his home Sicily till end of the month. He shall get a look into it upon his return. Did you try reinstalling the game may be?

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:04 pm
by Palpat
Not yet...

By the way, I'm playing with a Nobilis box version bought way back in 2005, and you gave me a new serial in order to install the Ageod patch. Is it possible that the fact I have a Nobilis version + Ageod patch does explain the somewhat instability of my game? (I often experience CTD, crash, corrupted saves/autosaves).

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 3:08 pm
by calvinus
If you post here a zipped savegame, I can try to reproduce and fix the crash, as soon I'm back from vacations, in September.

Thanks,
Calvinus.

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 10:12 am
by Palpat
I'll try to get a savegame. It may be quite complicated given the fact it crash a few days after the game start and almost once upon the bug arise.

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:56 pm
by Palpat
Here is a savegame.
It's actually on the very first day of the scenario. As usual, Franks units disappaered (I guess when I went to the Palace) and the game crashed when I tried to interact with the map.

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:08 pm
by calvinus
Ok I tested your save, and I got no crash.

I suspect you are suffering the typical CTD caused by the antivirus (popups). The outdated graphic engine of GI has a forced fullscreen mode that goes in crash when an external program (antivirus) causes a loss of focus from the game application...

So: play in windowed mode or disable the antivirus.

No popups / focus loss... ;)

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:38 pm
by Bruit Bleu
I didn't try the 450 scenario, but I have met numerous CTD in a full campaign game, every 5 or 10 years, maybe more often.

I usually reload a save and continue, but this time I couldn't pass year 375. Four tries, all crashed between august and december ; the last crash happened when I tried to save in august.
There are a lot of events during the year...

Here is the savegame.

I play in windowed mode, all other options standard, on a fresh 107C version.
If something can be done, I would be very grateful. :)

The Ageod version runs greatly and is far more enjoyable than the old Nobilis one ! :thumbsup:
But there are still far too much CTD..! :(


PS : Western Roman Emperor Merwig can also be seen in the savegame ! :niark:

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:13 am
by Palpat
calvinus wrote:Ok I tested your save, and I got no crash.

I suspect you are suffering the typical CTD caused by the antivirus (popups). The outdated graphic engine of GI has a forced fullscreen mode that goes in crash when an external program (antivirus) causes a loss of focus from the game application...

So: play in windowed mode or disable the antivirus.

No popups / focus loss... ;)


When I play, I always disable internet and any Antivirus firewall. Playing is serious business, no need of those pesky distractions!

So, I believe it's the wrong clue.
I'll try to reinstall the game asap.

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 9:16 am
by Palpat
Bruit Bleu wrote:I didn't try the 450 scenario, but I have met numerous CTD in a full campaign game, every 5 or 10 years, maybe more often.

Same here, and freezes too.

Well, I know of GI rushed birth, so I am patient, and I want to give the game a new chance. But some crashes are clearly strange.


I usually reload a save and continue, but this time I couldn't pass year 375. Four tries, all crashed between august and december ; the last crash happened when I tried to save in august.
There are a lot of events during the year...


Had the same issue around the middle of 370 (the year I couldn't pass was 372). But I finally achieved to go in 373. Everything more or less smoth now, apart from the usual random crashes.

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:04 pm
by Bruit Bleu
Palpat wrote:Had the same issue around the middle of 370 (the year I couldn't pass was 372). But I finally achieved to go in 373. Everything more or less smoth now, apart from the usual random crashes.


I managed to cross 375 at 5th try but the game crashed in marsh 376... :bonk:
But I passed it again and am now in 378, it was a bad moment to live, but it's done ! :p

This year 375 knew 4 major invasions including 2 for my Alamans and Huns, and my Suèves are no more raiders but playable.
Maybe something bugs in all these events...

I'll tell you when I'll meet chain CTDs again.