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Unable to move sprite in region
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:50 pm
by Hobbes
Hi folks, I am back to AACW after a break of several weeks and playing now I notice that in many regions I am unable to move a sprite in a region without it snapping back to it's original position a few seconds later. I am talking about regions that only contain friendly units.
This makes it far more difficult and clumsy to see what units you have and manipulate forces in a region. I find it quite frustrating. Has something changed in a patch in the past few weeks? Possibly related to the fix made to prevent sprites being displayed in the wrong region?
Cheers, Chris
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:59 pm
by Franciscus
I have also noticed it, and this has been somewhat mentioned by me and others a couple of days ago in the "Christmas patch" thread; I think IMHO it has something to do with the "regroup" option, that got messed up, was fixed, but now the units "move" inside the regions after we try to change their position.
But I think we did not get any feedback from Pocus & co yet...
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:18 pm
by Pocus
Yes, this is the intended work-around for the problem of sprites not in the region they should. Is the fix worst than the initial problem?
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:20 pm
by Franciscus
Pocus wrote:Yes, this is the intended work-around for the problem of sprites not in the region they should. Is the fix worst than the initial problem?
No, but IMHO the initial problem was worst than how things were before
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:59 pm
by Pocus
Actually I don't quite know what happened
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:04 pm
by Hobbes
I certainly preferred the odd sprite in the wrong region to this large pile of units but I can understand that it could confuse new players.
Can it be optional?
Cheers, Chris
Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:21 pm
by Hobbes
Having played for a few more hours I must say I now really dislike this change. It makes moving units around a chore.
leure:
Particularly frustrating is the way units outside of structures are moved on top of the structure obscuring the details of the town and units within it.
Cheers, Chris
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:09 am
by richfed
I agree with you, Chris. Also frustrating if you try to move a detachment into a region to join another stack. If there are multiple stacks, the one you want to find is not always on top.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:22 am
by Rafiki
richfed wrote:I agree with you, Chris. Also frustrating if you try to move a detachment into a region to join another stack. If there are multiple stacks, the one you want to find is not always on top.
+1
BTW, This is something that's always happened in the Atlantic shipping/blockade boxes, no matter the patch, AFAIK
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:59 am
by Le Ricain
However, merging using tabs does now work well.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 8:39 am
by Hobbes
Rafiki wrote:+1
BTW, This is something that's always happened in the Atlantic shipping/blockade boxes, no matter the patch, AFAIK
Yes that's very true.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:33 am
by Pocus
First step would be to increase the tolerance before checking out the new system... It is there to clean up the weird displacements, but is perhaps too zealous.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:40 pm
by johnnycai
richfed wrote:I agree with you, Chris. Also frustrating if you try to move a detachment into a region to join another stack. If there are multiple stacks, the one you want to find is not always on top.
Yes, this is worse than the previous situation. Please give us a way to show a specific stack on top.
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:32 pm
by Hobbes
Also it makes all the little action icons above the unit sprite look as though they are all for the top unit - it makes it difficult to know what you have set.
I hope we can get a change for this. Pretty please
Cheers, Chris
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:18 pm
by Gray_Lensman
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:40 pm
by Le Ricain
Gray_Lensman wrote:Is this a problem common to all regions, or just a few, and if so could you give me some specific region names/identifiers, maybe it is in the object locations in some cases...
I believe that the problem is common to all regions.
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:33 pm
by Hobbes
richfed wrote:I agree with you, Chris. Also frustrating if you try to move a detachment into a region to join another stack. If there are multiple stacks, the one you want to find is not always on top.
I'm finding this now as well. This really needs to be changed back to the way it was. It has a big negative impact on the game at the moment for me. It's common to all regions.
Cheers, Chris
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:58 am
by Pocus
Is the problem still there in 1.09 beta3? I don't have problems right now.
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:49 pm
by Hobbes
Pocus wrote:Is the problem still there in 1.09 beta3? I don't have problems right now.
Hi Philippe, from your response on the previous thread I had the feeling you would maybe do nothing about this for this patch? I'll try the 1.09 beta to see how it works now.
It makes a big difference to how easy it is to play the game to me now.
Cheers, Chris
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:51 pm
by Hobbes
Hobbes wrote:Hi Philippe, from your response on the previous thread I had the feeling you would maybe do nothing about this for this patch? I'll try the 1.09 beta to see how it works now.
It makes a big difference to how easy it is to play the game to me now.
Cheers, Chris
The sprite positions in 1.09 now seem fine from a quick test. I assumed something was changed in the patch then?
If so 1,000 thanks!
Cheers, Chris
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:57 am
by Pocus
I added more tolerance to the autoreplace function yes.